Today i went to a bar, and chated with a foreign girl. I made her happy and laugh, but in the end when i asked her number, she just refused me.
I don't know which part i did wrong things. People help me!!!
Thanks

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/12/2009 01:44AM by Olive.

Maybe she just didnt' like you. Or maybe she doesn't want to date Chinese guys because of past problems or maybe she's an alien from the planet Kryplotic who has come to Earth to get guys to buy her drinks and then runs home after to tell all her alien friends.

Give more information, how long did you talk? What did you talk about? Was she with others? How many drinks? Did you two dance?

With the little information you gave it could be almost any reason.

there don't have much mixed marriage in New Zealand like USA and canada,Australia is same with New Zealand on this one.you have no idea how these southern hemisphere white people think of asian men.that's why you lost.white people's stereotype of asian men is:bad sexual ability,weak,short,nerd,bookworm,geek,filthy,ugly eye shape.superiority complex is rooted in most white people's mind widely.
those links are very helpful to let you know how many white people think of chinese:[culture.163.com]
[tieba.baidu.com]
[www.studa.net]
[hi.baidu.com]
[bbs.cqzg.cn]

this website-China forum,give you a wrong and biased image of how westerners think of China and chinese,because foreigner here are almost fan of chiense culture,they don't have any racism opinion toward chinese,and here we got some white girls interest in asian guys and want date asian guy,or yellow fever white people.but don't blind by these,foreigners here can't represent major westerner's view of chinese and China at all,in west,asian men is probably the most unpopular,undesirable men by foreigner women,black men and white men are much popular than asian men.and may I ask you do you know Neo-nazi,skinhead,KKK?SO sad if you don't know,since you are in west now,it's good chance to know more of it in real life,if you still don't have basical comprehensive knowledge of west after your staying,too bad if you are still naive about west after your staying in New Zealand.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2009 07:28AM by Kurt.

here I will show you some links of Anti-chinese immigrant history happened in west.[www.chinese.net.nz]
[ayzx.xznu.edu.cn]
[www.chinaqw.com]
[news.china.com]
[www.17348.com]

[www.gzzxws.gov.cn]
[news.sohu.com]
[www.qingdaonews.com]

i just did a small game with her, she is a staff there. we talk about 10 mintues, because some customers come and interapted our communications. When i ask her number, she went to ask her friend give me or not.... i just feel monstrosity, i ask you number why you go to ask your friend direction.....

some girls are shy and give the number thats normal. maybe also a bit early to ask after ten min. do you have a chance to see her again?

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1234567: I just did a small game with her, she is a staff there. we talk about 10 mintues, because some customers come and interapted our communications. When i ask her number, she went to ask her friend give me or not.... i just feel monstrosity, i ask you number why you go to ask your friend direction.....

First off, ignore Kurt.

Secondly, she's a worker there?! That's why! Every waitress in a bar has 10 guys ask for her number every single night. Guys all think they are doing great because the waitress talks to them, that's their JOB! If you want to get a waitress's number you need to be either REALLY smooth or very patient. She sees you as a customer, a drunk customer who is trying to get into her pants. You need to get rid of that idea.

Go back to the bar and sit and relax. don't look for her or anything just relax. When you see her walk by or if she comes up smile and say hi. Make small talk and if she wants to, play games again. Go home.

Repeat a couple times. Get to know her, ask her about her life and what she does outside of work and family and friends. If she answers but never asks anything about you that's a bad sign. if she answers and asks that's good. Keep it up. Talk to her and chat and go back to see her, after a couple more times ask her out or ask for her number again.

Waitresses or bar staff are some of hardest people to get numbers from a lot of the time because they are usually very sick of having every horny sex starved male in teh place trying to grope them. be patient and go back to see her agian. Chat and be friendly. Look for the signs, if she doesn't seem interested, move on because if you don't she has the power to have large burly bouncers kick your ass. Bouncers will do anything for a pretty waitress...

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/12/2009 01:47AM by Olive.

I always find Uberche's words shows he is a white traitor and white hater who hate his own race.

haha really? Wow, I rock! I've got one crazy person (OBC) saying I'm an evil white oppressor who hates anyone not White and now I've got another crazy person saying I'm an anti-white traitor!

I'm just full of suprises!!

I think Uberche is very cool and hilarious. And kurt is quite amusing. but bar workers are not best recommended women to get involved with.

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I gave my nr to chinese guy because he went all the way untill my home with me on my bus !..So if you make an effort you probably get the nr! I met him in a bar few times but never really talked before! Now we are seeing each other one week ! It's my first chinese boy haha I am in trouble I don't know how to act with him at all! May be you can help me too??

He Kurt go jump off a bridge, Chinese people do well in America
Look at Yale school Flushing New York

I am an American, and I do not ask for phone numbers EVER... just give her yours and if she calls, she calls

Paulienet Wrote:
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> He Kurt go jump off a bridge, Chinese people do
> well in America
> Look at Yale school Flushing New York
>
> I am an American, and I do not ask for phone
> numbers EVER... just give her yours and if she
> calls, she calls

you need jump off Empire Tower,you yellow fever Mr maniac

Kurt the younger the girl the more likely they like Asians or are at least open to Asians... you know that the whole bad stereotyping thing against Asians is not popular among younger girls? I know most of my friends are Asiaphiles... aka they find every Asian cute and want to date. Now this is not every chick, but its more and more girls. So Kurt don't think that there are very few girls who would date Asians, its more than you think.

And to 1234567, I would say its harder to get a waitresses/bartenders number than most people so don't feel bad. Good luck though

I give you a clue,prostitution is legal in New Zealand,go and find some caucasian prostitute.good luck!haha

primero no tiene en cuenta a Kurt:

1 - algunas chicas que son tímidos y no a la primera char que se le da
los datos importantes.
2 - algunas chicas temor a Jakers de la prostitución y pensamos mucho a ella.
3 - Es posible que los temores de que juegues con ella
4 - No creo que no le gusta lo que si sigue hablando con usted es porque le interesaba.
5 - paciente algunas niñas se necesitaba más tiempo

Lile Wrote:
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> primero no tiene en cuenta a Kurt:
>
> 1 - algunas chicas que son tímidos y no a la
> primera char que se le da
> los datos importantes.
> 2 - algunas chicas temor a Jakers de la
> prostitución y pensamos mucho a ella.
> 3 - Es posible que los temores de que juegues con
> ella
> 4 - No creo que no le gusta lo que si sigue
> hablando con usted es porque le interesaba.
> 5 - paciente algunas niñas se necesitaba más
> tiempo
speaking english!!!

to be honest, im not chinese or white and i feel that chinese people are hot , so screw whatever that women was saying or however she approached the situation, because not everyone has that form of opinion , so if you guys are lookin for a fly ass black girl hola at me because, it seems to me that chinese guys do not what to interact with different races at all.

Kurt, you are antihuman

Paulienet Wrote:

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> I am an American, and I do not ask for phone
> numbers EVER... just give her yours and if she
> calls, she calls


This is actually a great way of dealing with the situation. Don't feel bad because she knocked you back like someone said it could have been any number of reasons other than she didn't like you. a good bar man/woman is likely to be hired because they are typically good looking/charming so like someone said they proberly have a lot of people coming up to them, chatting with them and it's their job to make their customers feel happy and special. So although she might of seemed happy talking to you, she might of just been thinking 'oh here's another one' and decided to run off and tell her friend about you. Whatever the reason don't worry about it, it obviously wasn't meant to be :p

Come on mate, it is so classic to ask phone number from a girl. If she regularly goes to that place and she really does like you, be sure that you will see her later many times. But please do not ask phone number at the first site, it is not professional

First of all most foreign girls are very similar to chinese girls, too. Here is how I get a date, "I go to the girl and say, "hi, do you mind helping me?" I am very unfamiliar with your culture and I would like to know what is acceptable and unaccetable to someone of your culture. Here is $100, do you mind educating me on what I should do to get someone of your culture's attention? How should I dress, how should I appear, or what places would be advisable to just go out and learn more about someone of your culture?" Of course, this usually gets their attention immediately. Then say, "I will be available. at a time of your convenience, to meet you so you can help me pick the right clothes, shoes, etc. so that I will be able to achieve my goal!" Then give her your phone number, understand? I usually have business cards made with my home and work phone number imprinted on them too.

Now the reason(s) why I use this strategy. Putting up money usually shows a woman (of any culture) that you are financially stable (meaning you are valuable catch for them). Secondarily, putting up money and allowing them to take control of dressing you and clothing you makes them think that they are in control of the situation and there is no pressure on them to perform anything more than just assist you in acclimating yourself to their ways and methods of doing things. All women, whether chinese or foreign, enjoy choosing or selecting the way they want their future boyfriend or husband to look like, got it? It also gives them pride in knowing that they get to make you into what they want you to be, too. Additionally, foreign women, unlike chinese women, do not like feeling pressured into anything. So releave the stress on them and let them think they are in control, also. GIving her your phone number first allows her to feel less stress too. Believe me, she will not forget who you are, especially when you put a $100 bill (USD)in their hand, too. They will also not lose your business card either, usually within 72 hours they will call you, too. Once they call you, you got their phone number, understand? But you can make sure it's their number by asking them after they state they want to meet you again, these words, "thank you for calling me and arranging our meeting, if by any chance I should be late or can't find you at the meeting place, may I call you back at this number?" (Got it?) She will say "yes or no?" IF she says "yes" you can call her anytime, if she says, "no, this is not my number but a friend's number then keep it anyway you can always call her friend and arraqnge another meeting, got it?

Wish you luck my chinese brother!

Teddy (USA)

You are lying to them about your intentions, if you want to talk to them, just talk to them. Offering money means it's a business transaction and even if they don't like you they'll still take the money and teach you, it's just going to take you a lot longer to find out they don't like you because they'll continue being nice to you and visiting you as long as you are paying them. If you want to show them you are financially stable, look financially stable, wear a nice shirt, good shoes and clean all around. Giving them money to show it will just attract gold diggers which is not a good thing unless you like spending all your money on a girl every month.

As for dressing, I've never met a girl who wants a guy who can't dress himself, go to sites online, find out what is stylish now and buy those. Saying you don't know how to dress yourself or behave just screams that you are not someone she wants to date. Girls like improving guys but they don't want to date children.

and most foriegn women I know would find it quite creepy and stalkerish to have someone lie just to get their number. If you want their number go and chat and if it all goes well, ask. Or, as many others said, give them yours and don't worry.

Sir, and I use that term looselyit works for me, perhaps if you tried it you would find out whether or not it works, understands? Before I condemn someone's experience I usually try it out. As in any scientific experiment or relationship "reproduction" of an experiment tells you if your premise is "true or false, understand?" So, therefore, I will try your experiment which you mentioned here and see if it works, too. I will be as objective as possible too. If your suggestion works then I will not hesitate to say, "Sir, you were correct, but naturally, I can only speak from my own experimentation at the present time, understand?" Mine worked for me duplicate what I did and see if it works or not is all I can tell you! I have been back and forth to china now for 3 years now and it always works for me. At no time did the young lady take my money and "run as you said!" Actually, based on my experiment, they wanted to learn more about me too.

Here is a very english expression, "don't knock it until you try it!"

One other english expression here too, "you catch more flies with honey than you do with salt!" Why do you think foreign women adornment themselves and use cosmetics to attentuate their best features, including their bodies?" Is this also a way of "lying?" Based on your premise here, be totally honest in the beginning, no woman should use any deception of any kind (bras that make their breasts look bigger or exciting or high heel shoes or ear rings or jewelry either since this is only a lie, right? They should just put on tennis shoes, pants and look like what they are right? Ask a foreign female, or even a chinese one too, "Would you not wear these things for me just be natura?" So, you see sir, in the beginning they all lie until they get to know you. Putting money on the table and asking them to assist you maybe to you a lie but in the end I have found it works to get them to want to learn more about you, later on, you can determine if they are gold diggers or not, am I right? Case in point also, when I was stationed in Germany for one year, I found that this always worked with german girls, too. After the initial meeting, they would meet me one or two times later. If I found they were gold diggers, after the first meeting, I would dump them they would not dump me, got it? And actually it was worth a few dollars to find out their true heart, wasn't it? So, the motivation was there for them so I could get their attention it was not there for payment of any kind, do I make my point clear to you now? By the way, a word of caution here too. Most of the german women told me, "we hate european men!" I asked them, "Why is that, you are european too?" They simply replied, "cause european men are so cheap!" And most of them pay for nothing but expect everything!

This is an interesting topic,Chinese guy ,come on!

Mate ,,,, Just get in there and ask her for her number ........... she can only say NO ...Crikey

Kurt sucks!!!
This guy never said the girl was white, he said was foreign girl.
Not the only ethnicity in the world is white, there are lots more, you dumb ass.