Hi,

I have been together with a chinese girl for a long time and want to propose.
I can find a romantic place and know what to say but i am not sure about the ring.

She always appreciates the gifts that i make for her, like carved out of wood etc, more than anything i buy her. If i propose in the traditional way with a ring, i do not feel it will be personal enough. So im thinking of an alternative to the ring?

Also, she hates wasting money, and i think if i buy a ring, it is not useful and not personal and it will be a bit of a waste. Does anyone have any ideas? She is quite traditional but also quite westernized, she has lived in uk for long time. I want to make her something that doesnt look cheap, is useful, wont be put in a box in the attic for ever, small so that i can take her out somewhere and give to her.

Its quite likely i will give this gift and also get a ring too.

Maybe like make a box out of wood or something, and can put the ring in the box...actually i like that idea, but i made her a box once before..

Anyone suggest some good ideas or anything i should include which i might not have thought of relevant to her culture?

I probably will use symbol for love on the box or something?

Alos if i do get a ring, any suggestions? Diamond is expensive so maybe a good alternative (dont have a lot money) or are coloured diamonds good for chinese?

Thanks for any help!!

hi man, a diamond ring would be better. Traditionally in Chinese marriage, the guy will give the woman a lot of dowry, and the woman's family will contribute nearly the same amount. Then at marriage day, all your dowry and the woman's family contribution will be brough back to your home. (hopefully you get what I am saying. it is like it seems that you spent a lot of money on giving the girl's parents dowry. But at end, you actually get everything back plus the girl family's givings. You are actually the winner. ) The logic behind it or culture behind it is that the girl and her family wants to be treated properly. I.e. "my girl worth a lot to marry you".

That is why I suggest a diamond ring will be better. You don't want your gf feel herself is cheap.

Good luck man. And email or call me if you need more info. cheers.

Make her a Jewelery box out of nice wood then place the ring within on alittle stand and let her open it. Something that goes together wtih the ring would be nice and girls LOVE Jewelery boxes, they usuallyput htem on the dresser in their bedroom and see them all the time.

Chinese gals like gold a lot. Because when she is tired of u, she can melt down the gold and sell it for a good price.

U can also give her a property as a wedding gift. That would be perfect to show that you can offer security for her future. Anything less would mean that u r a cheapskate.

Astroboy, you are such an old miserable man.

But someone said I am a cybercafe kid. So which one is true?

You're a cybercafe loser with a bitter, angry heart of an old man. The worst of both worlds.

lol

Actually I say all these things to show that westerners are too silly and idealistic for their own good. Most are complete fools when it comes to relationships with Chinese women.

We, Chinese, always laugh at these smitten westerners begging on their knees for the lady's hand in marriage, giving dumb gifts etc. This is China, NOT Hollywood! hahaha...

Lol Astroboy you are very out of touch with things - or I am very lucky in my relationship.

i also feel wuite happy with my ideals and sense of romanticism.

I pity the troll.

Also, you refer to yourself as Chinese, therefore i assume that you are - -- It is sad that you are posting such negative comments in my thread, as it is a negative reflection on the chinese people. Please try to discuss the topic.

Thanks

Here's some Chinese wisdom for u. And no, it did not come from a fortune cookie.
Nothing like cold hard cash to warm girl's heart - Confucius.

I don't think I have ever heard of it, Astroboy. Write in Chinese and let me judge. plus, you are just an old man on your way to "hell" and have no chance to love a woman no matter of a girl.

John1984, stick with your plan. It is you to ask the girl to marry you. Trust your instinct.Good luck!

o..GOod luck~!Congratulation~!

John: Astro is an angry child who can't stand foriegners getting the girls. He gets upset anytime any topic like this comes up. in regards to relationships wtih chinese girls you can safely ignore everything he says. He insults foreigners for only going after money grubbing girls and then he says that Chinese girls just like money and gold becuase he only goes after these money grubbing girls.

Everything he claims to hate, he hates becasue it's what he does from what i have seen here, it's hilarious.

I have a great relationship with a girl who doesn't want money, she can go abroad any time she wants and she is the kindest person I've met, Apparently Astro can't find these girls so instead he whines and cries about it here.

Oh and he's not actually Chinese, he was born abroad and has, i believe, a UK passport. He even admited in one thread that he lies about foreigners and chinese here a lot. He's the very definition of troll.

That's because I have seen too many western men with glib tongues cheating Chinese gals, promising this and that but end up being wife-beaters, womanizers and real sleaze balls.

As I said, the things Astro claims to hate about the West seem to all be the things he does.... careful girls.

If you're not rich the girl will be happy to know that you are at least spending 3 months worth of salary on the ring. It showed that you saved money for the proposing date. Or if you earn 5000rmb go spend 15000rmb on a diamond ring. Sure it might not be a big diamond and in fact quite a small one. But a diamond is still a diamond. Diamonds are actually very complex and the price varies a lot on its color, clarity, size etc. So they do have a diamond that will fit your budget. Don't think diamond rings are a waste of money. Its the symbol artifact that you sealed the deal.

Weddings are expensive so plan it right. In fact a lot of people profit money in their own weddings. The amount the spend on hosting the wedding is less than the hong baos they received. They calculated the cost where its 100USD per head, but the hong baos they received were like 200USD per head.

Sometimes its so profitable people just divorce and get married again and again.

disgusting comment, Moroes

Why? U can't take the truth? That's really what's happening out there.

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i have been away on holidays so to help the man with the box ,ring etc ,,, if she likes you maring thing why dont you go to the beach get a stone bring it home and polish it ,then get some glue not too expensive mind .. and stick it on a woodwn ring you have made be sure to measure her finger first...a piece of string might be usefull here. Hint make sure the stone is not too heavy, from personal experience this worked for me but alas she found someone more generous than me. hope this helps

you are quite wrong about that .every lady loves rings

Universal Truth ;

Girls are materialistic..no matter what color , country or race...

Men are hungry for Sex ..no matter what color, country or race...

so to propose a girl ( if you are serious about her) gift her some Gold or expenisve jewellery..

Not all girls are, every colour, country and race has girls who just want to be happy as well. Find a girl who accepts you without the gold and rings and you'll be much happier in the long run.

Uberche:
Question : whats common between dinasours and a Non Materialistic girl ???

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Answer : Both are extinct..

but then it't me..everyone has there own opinion and some fortunate people can live with this belief that there girl is not materalistic..

The institution of marriage is a joke for most lao wais (not saying all).

Take a look here:
[www.chinasmack.com]

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Take a look here:
[www.chinasmack.com]

This is not some Joke in the video , this is serious stuff. The boy has shown guts and courage to do that...how many of you can do it???

I am Lao Wai. To be precise, I am an English man. Yes, I am looking for a Chinese lady to become my wife. I am not looking for a sex partner, I am looking for a gentle lady to share the rest of my life with. Astroboy, of all the nations under the sun, why do you think I look for a Chinese Lady? Yes, I have that thing you would call 'yellow fever', I am attracted to Chinese women. I could find a local lady in the U.K. to settle down with but would rather go through all the red tape and cross the globe to find a gentle soul. If I am ever fortunate enough to find a lady that can love my old carcass enough to care, my proposal would be to her, discreetly, with her family members at most being present. I know not all Lao Wai are nice, but a lot of us do respect, if not understand Chinese culture, and would be honoured to take a Chinese wife. To be honest with you, it is my biggest fear that I would, through my own ignorance, give offence to a lady. This makes things very interesting at times. Please do not paint us all with the same brush, some of us are O.K. you know.