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Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Shanmarsh1 (IP Logged)
Date: December 08, 2011 10:30AM
How do Chinese people call those foreigners, especially westerners? Lao Wai. I don't know ... Most westerners have big noses.

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Savannah (IP Logged)
Date: December 08, 2011 01:29PM
Thapm,
Look what you said :"if we are all equal under God, why do you separate yourselves from the rest of us by living in your own separate communities? That is definitely, not the american way!"
Very biased my friend you are !! You really amazed me in a ridiculous way eye popping smiley
You know how many Asian American they are? And how many of them live in those you called separated way - China town, Japan town, etc. Do your math.
I have friends from a lot of countries: China, Japan, Korea, German, Italy, Norway, Africa countries, South America. Many of them volunteer in community work - community events, school help, sports activities volunteering, etc. And for your knowledge, those Asian friends of mine, they do go to China town to shop, but not as you said live in those places. You know why United States became a great country? That is for those people from other countries they brought their value, culture, and hard work to make it great.
If you are good at history, US history. Then you should know the Native Americans are Indian people, not white people. Do some research on how the white treated the Indians? Now, you are going to say I am an native Indian? LoL. I don't mind, I do have friends that are Indian origin, and they are super friendly. And do you know where Indians people came from? They came from Asian long long time ago. So, who is invader? who is aggressive? Who pushed who into the separate places? I don't hate white people. I have a lot of friends they are white too. But none of them is that biased as you are. I am sorry that you have this kind of thinking in your mind. Your teachers definitely did not do a nice job on teaching you about respect and tolerance and appreciation. But, you will learnthumbs up

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 08, 2011 03:39PM
I like what you said here Savannah I feel more of kinship now. By the way, my grandmother was a native american of the Houman tribe, too. America ia a melting pot, but the one reality of it is, we all have one common goal (the equality of all humanity as one)! As for the pun about history, my father and my grandfther themselves were world history professors so I grew up hearing it everyday. My wife is also an asian american, Japanese to be exact, and as she often tells me herself, asians are racist, though, they use the same excuses that asian americana use today to separate themselves from the rest of american society. Therefore, I can only speak from her own experiences too. Even more, I have sponsored for the last few years asian high school students (from china, vietnam, and korea too) and been to their communities too. I have even eaten at their tables, listen to their viewpoints, and heard the same things I have told you I heard from them. In the end, a few of those students I "home-stayed" with came back to tell me the truth too. They finally admitted, "yes, you are right, for the most part, our people (speaking of asians here) are indeed racist. They create excuses, they disguise it very well too, but they are racist, Teddy!" To date, though my survey is limited (around 200 asians in fact), of 200 asian interviewed or my having been associated with them and in their environment, 198 were racist and only 2 were not racist. If you do some basic sociology mathematical constructs, that amounts to 99% racist and 1% not racist. These statistics are alarming to any true born and bred americans of non-white origins, too. I personally think that the usa government, INS, needs to interview these new potential immigrants before they come here and ask them the same questions the sociology professor expounded. If they come up with the same answers you expouse, then they need to be left in their own countries for eternity. We have enough asian american racists in the usa now so we don't need any others, hope you get my viewpoint? Am I a racist, as you expouse, "No, I am not, if I were I would never have married an asian american, now woould I?" Am I for asian emigration to the usa? Yes, I am, but for those who would use our kindness and equality of humanity to continue their archaic beliefs and stay outside of kinship with the rest of us, they don't need to be here! Now for further proof of my non-racist views, next time you reply, I will give you the names of prominent asian american leaders, chinese and otherwise, I have worked shoulder to shoulder with to help a chinese american scientist, you may have heard of him, Dr. Wen Ho Lee, who was accused of espionage, to get out of a usa prison, so, my asian sister, please do not label me a racist by no means. What have you done for your fellow ameridans, non-whites, in your lifetime to show your respect for them? Have you eaten at their tables, have you been to their homes, have you seen the world through their eyes? I think not! But I am always open-minded, give me some proof, give me some examples, of your efforts to foster respect in your own environment or among other asian americans please!!!

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 08, 2011 04:10PM
Final note here. Respect comes from kinship and friendship, got it? To show one's respect invite a non-white american to your home, go to their house too. Let them "break bread with you," listen to the words they tell you about the way they live, ask them questions as to how you could do something to make their life a little better. Then ask them, "how do you view the way asians treat you in this country, and please tell me honestly how you feel about asian ameericans?" If you do this, please be prepared to receive some harsh comments from them, alright? I will give you a few comments from some of the hispanic communities here. Vosotros sonomos Vampiras! Loose translation = They are vampires (hinting)...they suck the life out of the rest of us and give nothing back in return! From Blacks, "They need to go back where they come from they always put their stores in our communities, they smile at us, but they do not respect us, they are like vultures!" They have never invited us to their homes because they think they are superior to us and to all other americans too. Behind their smiles they hide their resentment of us!"

You will be shocked at the real reality of what other non-white americans think of your ethnic group, ok? I wish you well Savannah in your dream but it's just not the reality of america ok?

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Gd (IP Logged)
Date: December 08, 2011 05:55PM
Yooo....Savannah and TChapm3...stop lecturing each other....lets kiss and make love..I meant make up..hahasmileys with beer

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Savannah (IP Logged)
Date: December 08, 2011 08:17PM
GD if you are white, then he might consider it, if not, then you probably will have no chance at all. If you are a Chinese, then you better run or he might chase you away especially if you live in China town. Got your luggage yet? According to Mr. Tchapm, the reality of American now all the people dislike the Asian people very very much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Readers, let hear your voice on this topic. Thanks.

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Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 04:01AM
I kiss my japanese wife every morning and in the evening too. She is sweet man, hahaha...but she tells me all the time, "Teddy, why you keep trying to change my people man, you know it's never going to work. They are stuck in what they believe in and that's all so quit and give up, at least you got me...hahaha...and I don't hate ya! For poor deluded Savannah, however, I really do hope the rest of america (non-whites, whites, otherwise) would share your honest opinions of the way you view asian americans though. Opening up their minds, in this instance, asian americans like Savannah, need to know how you truly feel concerning how asian americans treat the rest of us in the usa. If I am wrong, I am a humean being too, I can be wrong, let me know also. You may have noticed here though that Savannah skirted the issue again when I told her, "Why not invite a non-white american to your place, right?" Seems convenient again, doesn't it? Case rested, Judge Your Honor!

Teddy Boy

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 04:05AM
By the way GD and Savannah you are welcome to come eat dinner with me and my japanese wife anytime you get over to china ok? I am starting my english teaching job here in the next two weeks so welcome to visit, ok/ May I vist you also later? GD might say, "Yes, but I know what Savannah will say already, "Not just no, "But, sorry, Teddy, I have not had my rabies shots yet you "american non white dogs" might give me rabies, you know!" hahaha, don't worry Savannah, my japanese wife never caught my rabies ok? She can cook for you too, hope you like sushi?

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Gd (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 08:37AM
Ok you two need to stop exchanging accusation and discuss something fun and interesting. BTW, I am Chinese American and I give ppl (any race) the same or more respects they give me. Thanks Tchapm3 for the invitation! Savannah when are will going to depart from Mitchell Airport for China to meet up with Tchapm3...smileys with beer

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 10:55AM
GD, welcome. Savannah are you coming into china from Beijing, or, from Shanghai? I live closer to Shanghai ok? Oh My God, I just read what you said GD,Savannah is coming to China, oh my god, I need to get out of this chinese "hood" I live in in Hebei now where they spit at me and my wife before catching the train and move to the foreign enclosure in Chaoyang, I guess! Word to the wise Savannah, if you come to Beijing I will help you find a suitable apartment or introduce you to a few chinese girls who can help you in Chaoyang where most of the foreigners live, ok? But watch out, most of them will scam you in a minute if they think you are american, ok? They scammed a friend of mine, usa guy, out of $4500 dollars I had to send him back home with money from my own pocket. Are all chinese here scammers, no, I don't think so, but it's hard to find the good ones, ok?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2011 11:05AM by Tchapm3.

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Savannah (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 12:27PM
After I finish my teaching contrast at the University, maybe GD?
Poor TChapm3, now I understand why you hate Chinese people so much - you got cheated by a few people there. But, does it make all Chinese bad? Nah. Why don't you thank them for giving you a job there? ciao.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2011 12:29PM by Savannah.

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Gd (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 02:27PM
You guys just don't listen to me...stop bickering. Pick a new topic to discuss will ya? What are you teaching Savannah?

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 02:49PM
Simple, GD, stop being a hypocrite, if you say you respect other groups then prove it by deed not by words! Words are easily spoken and forgotten just as well, too. But a deed goes on forever and forever! If you respect me then prove it. Since you are chinese american, I know plenty of them also who live in a small southern town in Mississippi, called Greensville, Mississippi. The entire town is chinese or of chinese origin of Fujian province refugees who left right after Chairman Mao took over. All the signs of the stores are in chinese and english too. The Mayor of the town is one of my best friends too but he will be the first to tell you, "Ted, you are right most of us are racists or biased!" To him I give the greatest praise, for 50% of the battle to change a person who thinks in that way, is for them to admit they harbor racist or bias against those of non-white origins!" If Savannah wants praise, acceptance, and respect let her show it with more than her lips, understand? One more note, I also walked side by side with the ex president (taiwanese american named Cecilia Chang) of the "New Immigrants" organization (for chinese american rights here in the usa a few years ago for Dr. Wen Ho Lee), would you like to hear what she had to say concerning her fellow chinese americana, "Ted, she said, "I am so ashamed of my people (fellow chinese and chinese americans here), they isolate themselves all the time, when their fellow chinese ask them for help they avoid it, cause in their viewpoint, it's your family problem not mine," get it? But you and your people (non-whites) came to our aid when our own fellow chinese never answered the call to help us free a chinese american citizen who was falsely accused and stayed in prison for 2 years without any evidence!" So, you see GD, it's deeds that matter most in any relationship not just words!" Savannah needs to prove herself worthy, as any american should, to be an american put some deeds/actions behind what you say!

New Topic Story Of Herr Wolfgang Heckles An American Patriot
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 03:17PM
Another one of my Professor friends, a german born in East Germany during World War II, then later became a usa citizen and german teacher at my university once told me, by the way, he is now deceasesd about 3 years ago, about his life in nazi germany as a 6 year old boy and later about his life when he left East Germany at the age of 15. To quote from Herr Heckles, "Nazi germany was such a racist regime when I was young they never said it outright but the "brown shirts" (Hitler's Goosesteppers, Heil Hitler) let it be known that all other groups, with the exception of germans (referred to as aryans), were not full german citizens. My mother and father, both catholics and christian, knew what they(the nazis) were doing was wrong but as most germans did, we were too scared to stand up to them and say, "Everyone is a human being and they are not animals they are germans just like us!" To me he said, "Herr Chapman, I was wrong too I knew what the brown shirts were doing to the jews, gypsies, and non-whites were wrong but I was only 6 yers old so I was afraid too. To this day, I regret my not being stronger or speaking out by word and deed against that cruel regime!" I regret not telling my fellow germans, "We needed to show by our actions in opposition to the Brown Shirts, they needed to respect those people, too!" But we never did, so, though we knew we were wrong too, we actually condoned what they did by not speaking out, by not standing up, by not inviting the jews and oppressed non-whites into our homes, as the dutch families did in Holland, to save people like Anne Frank's family! I'd like to hear your comments on this story people too, or, do you believe as they did (germans who never spoke up and showed up either), I can just keep it to myself and say I respect them but never do anything to demonstrate to them I respect them too? Think about it? Just some food for thought, alright?:-) If the shoe fits wear it and if not just put it in the back of your head and do what Wolfgang and the other germans did at that time. By the way, once Wolfgang emigrated to the usa at 15 years old, he worked hard, saved his money, and was always present at all groups (hispanic, black, even asian american protests against racism all over the usa) rights for equality and freedom in this country, too. This man became a "true patriot" for equality and friendship, few know of him, he is buried in a small cemetery in Greenville, Mississippi. If you ever go there hope you put some flowers on his grave? I go there once a year myself, when I am back home, and remember him as a "true american" (not just a emigrant but a patriot) that I will remember for the rest of my life!

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2011 03:25PM by Tchapm3.

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Savannah (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 05:28PM
Education. I need to hurry up for a concert. Ta ta for now.

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Gd (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 05:48PM
Hahaha...prove what. Prove that you are right! What if I say that you are right? Does that make you feel better? I just log on here for some casual exchanges so I don't need to prove anything.

Japanese Americans Incarcerated During World War II
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 06:32PM
Japanese American internment


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Internment camps and further institutions of the War Relocation Authority in the western United States.
Japanese-American internment was the relocation and internment by the United States government in 1942 of approximately 110,000 Japanese Americans and Japanese who lived along the Pacific coast of the United States to camps called "War Relocation Camps," in the wake of Imperial Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor.[1][2] The internment of Japanese Americans was applied unequally throughout the United States. Japanese Americans who lived on the West Coast of the United States were all interned, while in Hawaii, where more than 150,000 Japanese Americans composed over one-third of the territory's population, 1,200[3] to 1,800 Japanese Americans were interned.[4] Of those interned, 62% were American citizens.[5][6]


Many of the Japanese Americans, after the war was over, often blame america's misconception of their loyalities due to the fact that they had very little interaction with other american groups due to their isolation in areas predominately controlled by Japanese Americans. There isolationism, and strict adherence to the customs and traditions of their japanese forebears created mass hysteria from the other groups native to the United States, therefore further exacerbating their dire condtions and rights violations on the West Coast area of the continental United States.

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Perhaps you can now see why asian american isolationism in their own closed communities created a hysteria that caused them to be misinterpreted by their fellow white and non-white americans. This lead to their imprisonment for over 5 years. haha! I do not think they found it a funny situation at all!:-( do you? They lost their houses, their land, their businesses too all because they wanted to maintain the customs and traditions of their forebears! After the war was over a majority of them then found out that 'breaking bread" with their enemies (whites and non-whites) might not be such a bad idea, huh? As a result of their campaign to show themselves as normal aveage americans those same whites and non-whites enacted laws to reimburse the Japanese Americans for their losses. Though they could never really recovered the full amounts of their losses, still it was a step in the right direction by them "opening up their doors and their homes" to their fellow americans, is it clearer now? "Those who fail to learn the lessons of the past ( asian=eye popping smileysmileys with beerthumbs upamerican history) will eventually suffer the same fate as those before them!"

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 06:38PM
Thank you GD for your comment here, this is the main reason why chinese americans are disliked by the other non-white groups in the usa! That is your response to everything, "Prove What?" If you have not learned anything by now read about Wolfgang, please! He proved he was worthy of admission to his adopted country, you, on the other hand have just now proved my point! Thanks!

Ignoring The Problem Only Makes It Worse
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 09, 2011 07:17PM
Savannah's comment, "You should thank them for giving you a job!" I will comment to her personally and to you also. It is due to the chinese deceptive trade policies and lowering, intentionally, the value of their currency that we now have an imbalance in trade, too. But being a vietnamese american or chinnese american your probable philosophy is, "Well, they were only doing what they had to do, right?" One day, if you keep on thinking like that you will not have a job in the usa, too. Have you considered that? Do you say that the usa belief in free trade and fairness in business practice is wrong and the United States and European beliefs are wrong and the chinese policy is right? Another point, the vietnamese american organizations in the usa collected more than $12,000,000 usa dollars to give to Senator McCain's campaign. Guess how much they contributed to President Obama's campaign? Not one dollar, what does that prove you might say to me as many of the vietnamese americans have? According to my vietnamese american friends it proves nothing, right? Wrong, do you think that President Obama and blacks in the usa are stupid? No, they are not, why do you think he withheld funding for trade to vietnam? Wake up my fellow asians, stop sticking your head in the sand your excuses are being watched and noted by the non-whites in this nation, ok? Do not think they are all as stupid as you think they are? President Obama warned China even last week, "With great power comes great responsibility to be fair and assist others, (hint here was: not be deceptive, cunning and devious)!" "We will hold China more and more accountable for their actions too!" That was a warning, understand? China better listen too, as you know, President Obama means what he says, ask Osama Bin Laden about it, oops sorry, he is dead isn't he? If the usa blockades china by sea and air (through our military might) you can believe all that money they deceived and tricked us out of will slowly trickle down to nothing, understand? Then you will see how quickly they open up or kick us out as teachers, get it? Do I agree with "force?" No way, but if that is what it takes to wake people up then that is what it will take! I have already fought for my country in other places, if they ask me to help blockade china and I am called back to active duty I will do as my country tells me, get it? How about you?

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Racism won't do you any good
Posted by: Savannah (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2011 12:00AM
I did not say you should; I said "Why don't you thank them for giving you a job there?" It is an option that you can make - to hate or to like. No one can force you to do thing you don't want to do. To stir up the racism will do any good to you, or just to let you have a moment of gratification? So many Asian people live in the United States, only a tiny fraction of them live in what you called separate community. Many Americans live in separate communities too when they live overseas. Why don't you criticize them? Be fair, and be kind. This world had enough wars, many of them are unnecessary ones. An eye for an eye will only end up causing you blind. See through the skin and nationality. Be happy with the diversity and try to learn something from each ethic group. No one is perfect, no nation is all bad either. Have peace.smileys with beer

Re: Racism won't do you any good
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2011 03:40AM
Wrong again, if no one confronts a racist he will continue to be racist and the next geneation too and it will go on and on on until someone stands up and says 'enough is enough" as Rosa Parks did 40 years ago. Racism never goes away it just goes undercover waiting for the right time to re-surface it's ugly head, whether that be a white racist or an asian racist, get it? What am I saying, "you just can't do nothing and expect to get something the world just does not work that way, get it? One other thing, if someone had spoken up before Germany became a nazi nation, 6 Million Jews, Gypsies, and other non-white people would have lived to create new generations. Unfortunately, if we continue to let china and vietnam continue their racist attitudes, nothing will ever change either! If their are truly good chinese or vietnamese they need to standup and be counted, they can't kill you all, can they? Accordig to what you espouse here, Mahatma Gandhi should have just gone back to work as usual and allowed the British to continue to be racist towards his people, work them for slave wages, steal the wealth of India to take back to their nation, too. A word from the civil rights marches of 1965 from my native american grandmother who marched then. She knew racism was wrong so she said, "I have had enough, if the white man kills me let him kill me as he did my ancestors, either way I will have my freedom from his tyranny!" When are the good chinese, vietnamese, or other asian americans going to stand up and show their bravery, or, will you forever continue to be cowards? Racism is wrong, if I get kicked out of here so be it! All it takes is just one chinese to listen to what I have to say, who knows, he just might be the one that changes the whole face of china as Chairman Mao did! Or vietnam too, hiding in the shadows hoping for change never happens, I been there and done that, get it? You have to stand up, maybe get punished or killed, in time they can't kill you all or they will have no one to govern, get it? Additionally, I have heard the stories of vietnamese who emigrated here. One of those families right across the street from my dad's. He told me of the "re-education camps" and how he was abused and mistreated by his own kind. My heart entwined with his for his bravery as he said, "I stole a potato cause we were all starving there but the wardens there caught us eating it. Next thing I knew, they put all the ARVN soldiers outside and told them every one would be punished for what the one who stole the potatoes did!" I admire him for his bravery, eventhough he suffered greatly for it by lashing, he said, "I could not stand by and let my fellow Ex Arvn friends be punished for what I did so I stepped forward and told them, "I did it!" This is a real patriot, in any country you ever lived in, for this man, despite the cost bravely accepted his fate and marrched forward, he was not a coward either! He is the type of vietnamese american who deserves to live here not most of the rest of them! As my dad tells me all the time, "Cowards never win and cowards never fight for what is right, only the brave son only the brave!" Look deep within yourself, am I calling you a coward, certainly not, but look within yourself at the policy of non-interferrence you are espousng here. Non-interference is what really caused most of the wars in the world, for real! The good men and good woman in every country sitting back, saying nothing, and just going about life as if they were safe let the other guy do it, not me, is what cause wars Savannah not confronting the issues! Why do many governmenet and nations around the world hate americans? Simple, americans, whether right or wrong (and there have been times we were wrong too) will always stand up for the underdogs, the innocent, the weak, the oppressed. However, this will never happen in Vietnam or China though, can you honestly tell me why? Do you think it has to do with the philosophy of non-interferrence you have espoused here? A favorite expression of japanese americans is, "if the nail sticks up we hammer it down hard!" I want you to think on these words, digest them, analyze them too. It simply translates to, "If something is wrong you need to fix it NOW NOT LATER!"

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Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Shanmarsh1 (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2011 10:03AM
mongoloid characteristics are small eyes and flat nose. I agree with girl power, anoshra and mari laveau. the only asians with large eyes and high nose are biracials and multiracial.

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Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Gd (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2011 02:28PM
TChapm, you are wrong there buddy... China stands up for North Korea against US and South Korea hot smiley

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Savannah (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2011 03:23PM
Hi Champ (You mind I call you Champ? Champ stands for Champion, and easy to remember ok?),
May I ask this question, what exactly you think the Asian Americans or Asian people in general need to fix? Make a list and let's discuss later smiling smiley
Thanks, have a good Sunday there (tongue sticking out smiley

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2011 05:23PM
GD, I love you my asian brother with all my heart let me ask you this though? Without the american "interference" in your country's(the nation of China) affairs, how did your predecessors get here? Unless your predecessor's (ABC chinese)came here to work on the railroads you owe the land of your birth (Hopefully the usa), more respect than you do for Chna, don't you? I hope I am wrong here, but are you "thumbing your nose" at the nation that feed you, your parents, and chinese all over the world when they needed it? I am ashamed of you sir! I love Japan too but I know one thing, Japanese in the past were some of the most racist arrogant idiots the world has ever seen too. But one difference now, Japanese have learned the punishment for arrogance and racism. While I am here too, I will apologize to all chinese everywhere, in china or the rest of the world, for Japan's arrogance and racist military regime that caused the deaths of so many chinese innocents. Also while I am here too I will praise the USA forevermore for helping you chinese everywhere too for "interferring" with Japan's arrogant racist takeover of your nation. Let's hear it for the red, white and blue, hip hip hooray!smileys with beer As for china standing up for North Korea to usa aggression! Here are my thoughts on that, of course, being an american I will have to go back to what I said before. Only the usa stands up for the innocents and of course the oppressed people everywhere! The dictatorship that had power in North Korea only takes care of those that "tow the party line" (those who are not committed to the communist party are left to fend for themselves, which usually means, sorry dude we ain't gonna help ya). There are still millions of North Koreans who are not associated with or want to be associated with the communist party there. Such as farmers, average families, etc., etc.. These are the innocents, another fact to mention was North Korea actually went into piracy at one time kidnapping japanese citizens from cruise lines which we have all heard about here, did you know that? One of my japanese cousins was captured in this way and forced to live in North Korea for 22 years of her life. She was raped repeatedly by north koreans called a slut, whore, and other nasty names as well. The usa government, along with Japan, intervened for her release as soon as the North Koreans let them know what they had done to them. The USA in no way wants to use aggression on North Korea, but if you knew your facts you would also know that the innocents in north korea are suffering food shortages, medicine shortages, power shortages too. And in fact, North Korea is shipping and supplying Iran and other "resistance groups to usa aggression" nuclear equipment and weaponry that can be used in the future against the american people (I think you are both usa citizens too as I am?) to destroy our food supplies and damage our infrastructure (our ability to respond to emergencies readily, threats, etc., etc.)! I applaud China for standing up to help their asian brothers (North Korea), on the other hand, I condemn China for not looking into and investigating further, why the innoocents in North Korea have to suffer for their leaders committment to the destruction and upheavals, through direct breaking of the rules the United Nations had approved, to stop them!

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List Of Things That More Asian Americans Can Do
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2011 06:24PM
First let's begin with those things outside the USA:

1. First thing is wages for the poor (support in every country where you are there fair wages for the poor in those countries). You may not be able to say so directly, but, you can send money to fund groups that help the poor, ever heard the expression money talks?
2. Rights for all people that have insurance problems (fund or help groups with donations and finances or the creation of businesses within that country to make health care, financial benefits for the death of their loved ones, too.
3. For asians all over (in asian counries) foster by word and deed whenever time avails you from your job (relationships, dialog, and friendship groups that promote anti-racist rhetoric on common grounds as love, the economy, non-political agendas.
4. For all, more love (by relationship, fellowship, and association with) instead of hate! Ask the questions that need to be asked, let them know you are open to hear their ideas and philosophies, then let them know before the discussion, if my answers or questions offend you in anyway I will hear what you have to say (means equality of ideas). This does not mean though that you are acquiescing to their ideas if they are racist, understand? The point of this being you are letting them hear the truth, from your side, what they do with it is not your problem it is theirs! Once you have gained their trust they will listen to you but it does not mean they accept it either but at least they heard the truth, get it?
5. And let the old be ha, you can never change them but the youngers ones have hope.
6. Let the banks help chinese peple get in buisnesses more that open them up to international business and the rules of the game there are fairness, honesty, and openness not dishonesty, racism, or hidden agendas.
7. And tell the chinese men to treat thee ladys like princesses not dogs! I see them beating women so much over here and if you intervene as a foreigner you are the one wrong for interfering with a domestic dispute, that is downright archaic and it needs to be changed.

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List Of Things Inside The US That Asian Americans Can Do
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2011 07:40PM
Next Let's Begin With Those Things Inside the USA:

1. First thing is wages for non-white poor (support in every way possible where you are there fair wages for the poor in our own country). You may not be able in the beginning as a new business owner to fund groups that help the poor, but, as soon as you can, let the emloyees know you working with them to promote benefits for their good as well as your own.
2. Promote rights for all people that have insurance problems (fund or help groups with donations and finances or the creation of businesses within your own country to make health care, financial benefits for the death of their loved ones, available too.
3. For asians all over (in the usa) foster by word and deed whenever time avails you from your job or businesses (relationships, dialog, and friendship groups that promote anti-racist rhetoric on common grounds as love, the economy, and politcs, too. How do you do this? If you are not willing to open up your homes, then public facilities, at low cost, are available to you to have such meetings. I found in my home city in the usa, civic centers and public library rooms (in other states I am not sure but in the southern region I am from, the library time was made available for free to us. In the beginning you may wish to cost cut by posting signs in your own community or neighborhood, or later, as the group grows, you can put "ads" in the local paper or in a university setting you can put up hand made posts that tell of, " An Open discussion on knowing your asian american neighbors as your friends, etc., etc., etc.!" In this way you foster relationship, respect, and equality too. Special note here, at one time I went to an asian american church (it can be a temple as well) I met a chinese american (whose parents were from taiwan) and he was a doctoral student in mechanical engineering. I was shocked one day when he told me, "Would you like to know the truth about us (chinese americans)? I said, "Yes, of course!" Then he opened up to me and said, "you know I use to think that we chinese here had problems unique to only chinese but since I have been here I have learned that "all americans" share the same problems, too. (haha) Then he added, "We chinese never discuss what happens behind closed doors of silence, however, it might be good I think now to open up and share!" I then gave him some advice as to how to deal with his parents problems with him dating an hispanic girl instead of a chinese one...lol!"
4. For all, more love (by relationship, fellowship, and association with) instead of hate! Ask the questions that need to be asked, let them know you are open to hear their ideas and philosophies even if those ideas are hurtful to you. Do I mean let them "rag on ya" (spit out their hatreds and anger on you), no sir or madam by no means. If they do, let them know you are here for discussion and you will take what they say into consideration, too.
6. Let them know you are here to let them know you, the real you, not the facade that most asian americans put on and the rules of this discussion are to promote fairness, honesty, and openness not dishonesty, racism, or hidden agendas.
7. And tell them what you like about the usa and what you do not like about the usa in an open frank discussion. If you are wrong in your beliefs be willing to admit that you never knew that and if you can, with all due respect, you will try to be nore aware of that in the future and change it. Another special note here. Once a Korean shop keeper told me, "Why do blacks get angry with us, we did not do anything bad to them all we did was put the money on the counter?" So, I was not sure myself, and I went to one of my black friends in the library setting discussion and asked him, "Can you explain to me why blacks do not like Koreans? He said, "Sure, Ted, many of the blacks do not like them because instead of putting their change back in their hands when they buy thiings from their businessess, the koreans put the money on the counter and make the blacks pick it up!confused smiley I said, "What's wrong with that? He said, in our community not putting the money back in your hands is a sign of disrespect and rejection!the finger smiley Aha, now I understood cause many japanese do the same things too, haha. So, I went to the korean shop keeper and explained it all to him. From that point on the koreans changed for in their buddhist beliefs money is only a tool and point of revulsion to have in your hands (but we all love money honey), lol!hot smiley

Re: List Of Things Inside The US That Asian Americans Can Do
Posted by: Savannah (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2011 09:21PM
Hi Champ,
Thank you for taking the time to make the list. It looks long spinning smiley sticking its tongue out So, this is for every Asian person? Young and old, wise or dull? From Japan to India? From Singapore to Korea? Yes? or No?
If the Asians can work on those, then they will be perfect Asian in your eyes?
I will look them over, and get back to you soon I hope. Have a good Chinese Sunday at where you arehot smiley

Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2011 11:13PM
You are welcome Savannah but to answer your questions.So, this is for every Asian person? Young and old, wise or dull? From Japan to India? From Singapore to Korea? Yes? or No? The answer to these questions is "YES!"
They can perfect Asia? The answer is "No, for you see as long as we are human beings, we will always be imperfect, however, opening up dialog with these other asians, by the usa of asian americans who have re-patriated back to their former ancestral motherlands, will make them aware that their world is not as perfect and rosy as they think!" Democracy is a process Savannah by which the state and the people are constantly in a position of change and development. It is a democracy purely and simply because their is always a voice of opposition in it that speaks out! So, when there is a democracy, unlike many areas in asia that are dictatorial or authoritarian as Nazi Germany was the people need to hear the truth then make a decision. "My people perish for lack of knowledge!" Now to add a "ray of sunshine to an otherwise dull day read this.

"Time is of the essence you need to act now, because every minute counts in life. I and you and everybody else are here today, but then we are gone tomorrow. If possible act now, my good friend! Life is too wonderful to waste look at the trees the sky the stars that shine at night, if they took the time not to come out, like the sun, we would be in trouble now wouldn't we? Food would not grow, or trees give us oxygen either therefore all life would end on this planet, too. Thusly, it's up to every human being on this planet to insure that life goes on racism ends and we learn to love each other! Do I believe racsim will ever end, the answer is "Absolutely, No!" But for thoes of us who believe in love, respect and harmony we must be constantly on our guard that when "racism" raises its ugly head (whether asian racism, white racism, black racism, etc. etc..)we "hammer it down hard!"

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Re: Why do westerners have big noses?
Posted by: Tchapm3 (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2011 11:40PM
Oh, by the way Savannah, only you and my japanese wife are hereby granted the status of "ambassadors extraordinaire" to communicate with the Champ,haha, lol. Of course I am joking here now, GD, my asian brother I am not going to leave you out either ok? Call me Champ if you like? Now, you see what the process of effective communication does, right? Since we now have an association (through dialog) we can joke with each other and still understand that we belong together and separate and apart.the finger smiley

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