Yep like you said Jasuk sounds good either way

Kurt Wrote:
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> Rape me,I have autosadism complex,Save me from
> endless lusts.


Autosadism.. I had to look that up. It starts to explain it, doesn't it.

it's joke,you need to learn the difference between formal words and joke

well im 19 from texas and i have a boy from china who is my penpal he is not mean but he jokes about me coming to china to see him ^^, but i think he is getting serious about it

haha why not go visit him?

well cause im scared ^^,,

why? you scare he is a "Texas Chainsaw Masscare murder"?

well dont you want to go visit him one day? i think it would be nice to meet.

Kurt Wrote:
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> they are cute for you because you have little
> experience with them.Tired of such comments.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/14/2009 12:01PM by Xmnevaeh.

Kurt Wrote:
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> I am ordinary,but better than most chinese,that's
> my opinion about myself,haha,chinese are nothing
> to me,neither their opinion about me.

Kurt ：
我不认为你是外国人，你是一个地地道道的中国人，在你身上发现了也只有中国式表现的自私，自卑但是却自恋，虚荣慕洋的性质。我为你感到羞耻。翻译下面的话吧，谢谢！
描述一个人，一个词语，一句话，一篇文章都难以做到。你们觉得寥寥的几句可以让大家了解中国男孩么。你们见过农民工的孩子么，你们见过在工地上干活的农民工青年么。你们见过的，无非两类。一种是受过高等教育，有教养的中国男孩，一种是拿着父母的钱炫耀的二世祖。所以你们对中国男孩的印象呈现两个极端。
从农村到城市，从学校到社会，我深深的体验到中国社会存在的黑暗和腐败，用不着BBC的报道。上层大部分是被困在一个体系下的堕落的人，我体会同情可怜他们，同时也恨他们；下层大部分是没有受过教育无知而不知羞耻的人，但是您能怪这些人么。从无知到知耻，从贫穷到自足，我们的政府培养了千千万万像我一样无知贫穷走进社会，跟紧社会潮流的人。即使我们的政府做错了九十九件事情，她至少做对了一件受益千代的事情。我们不满足地推翻我们的政府，我们能给我们的国民什么样的承诺？像总统一样给空头支票么？还是蒋介石，李登辉，阿扁哥之流？共产主义没有错，曾经错误的是执政的。
尽管我们的社会有点黑也有点烂，我依然看到了我们的前途和光明，社会在前进在完善。这就是我，二十六岁，从农村走出来的中国男孩，一个中国男孩的缩影。我也可爱，也有点害羞，也曾经的无知自卑，不讲卫生的吐口痰，但是一路的走来，我充满了信心，思想有点复杂，却和单纯的你们一样的健康。

you should come to America, land of opportunities, a place people do not discfrminate you because where you are from, as long as you have greenback!

that's why i like about Vegas. in Vegas, you can be anyone!


Xmnevaeh Wrote:
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> Kurt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am ordinary,but better than most
> chinese,that's
> > my opinion about myself,haha,chinese are
> nothing
> > to me,neither their opinion about me.
>
> Kurt ：
>
> 我不认为你是外国人，你是一个地地��
> �道的中国人，在你身上发现了也只有�
> ��国式表现的自私，自卑但是却自恋，
> 虚荣慕洋的性质。我为你感到羞耻。��
> �译下面的话吧，谢谢！
>
> 描述一个人，一个词语，一句话，一��
> �文章都难以做到。你们觉得寥寥的几�
> ��可以让大家了解中国男孩么。你们见
> 过农民工的孩子么，你们见过在工地��
> �干活的农民工青年么。你们见过的，�
> ��非两类。一种是受过高等教育，有教
> 养的中国男孩，一种是拿着父母的钱��
> �耀的二世祖。所以你们对中国男孩的�
> ��象呈现两个极端。
>
> 从农村到城市，从学校到社会，我深��
> �的体验到中国社会存在的黑暗和腐败�
> ��用不着BBC的报道。上层大部分是被困
> 在一个体系下的堕落的人，我体会同��
> �可怜他们，同时也恨他们；下层大部�
> ��是没有受过教育无知而不知羞耻的人
> ，但是您能怪这些人么。从无知到知��
> �，从贫穷到自足，我们的政府培养了�
> ��千万万像我一样无知贫穷走进社会，
> 跟紧社会潮流的人。即使我们的政府��
> �错了九十九件事情，她至少做对了一�
> ��受益千代的事情。我们不满足地推翻
> 我们的政府，我们能给我们的国民什��
> �样的承诺？像总统一样给空头支票么�
> ��还是蒋介石，李登辉，阿扁哥之流？
> 共产主义没有错，曾经错误的是执政��
> �。
>
> 尽管我们的社会有点黑也有点烂，我��
> �然看到了我们的前途和光明，社会在�
> ��进在完善。这就是我，二十六岁，从
> 农村走出来的中国男孩，一个中国男��
> �的缩影。我也可爱，也有点害羞，也�
> ��经的无知自卑，不讲卫生的吐口痰，
> 但是一路的走来，我充满了信心，思��
> �有点复杂，却和单纯的你们一样的健�
> ��。

Las Vegas is cool you can be anyone if you have greenbackcould mainland chinese experience this feeling?

Xmnevaeh Wrote:
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> Kurt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am ordinary,but better than most
> chinese,that's
> > my opinion about myself,haha,chinese are
> nothing
> > to me,neither their opinion about me.
>
> Kurt ：

> 描述一个人，一个词语，一句话，一��
> �文章都难以做到。你们觉得寥寥的几�
> ��可以让大家了解中国男孩么。你们见
> 过农民工的孩子么，你们见过在工地��
> �干活的农民工青年么。你们见过的，�
> ��非两类。一种是受过高等教育，有教
> 养的中国男孩，一种是拿着父母的钱��
> �耀的二世祖。所以你们对中国男孩的�
> ��象呈现两个极端。

you forgot the majority of chinese in foreigner eyes who has lived in China for quite long time:poor,uneducated,filthy,zealous but rude.

that's not the case in my town, most of people think we Chinese push up housing price and because Chinese work too hard, they push white people out of business, as white people wanna get off at 4pm , never work on weekend.
people think Chinese is rich here.... lol..


you know, too bad, white people in my town are too lazy and expect stuff hand over to them... i wish more immigrants live in my town, then they have to work hard...

I am telling ya, if there is way i can hire undocumented Mexican contractors, i will not hire white people as plumber or yard work... white people often come late and get off early, do things slow and expect me to pay high price...

haha, i am so racist eh?


Kurt Wrote:
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> Xmnevaeh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Kurt Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I am ordinary,but better than most
> > chinese,that's
> > > my opinion about myself,haha,chinese are
> > nothing
> > > to me,neither their opinion about me.
> >
> > Kurt ：
>
> >
> 描述一个人，一个词语，一句话，一��
> ��
> >
> �文章都难以做到。你们觉得寥寥的��
> ��
> >
> ��可以让大家了解中国男孩么。你��
> �见
> >
> 过农民工的孩子么，你们见过在工地��
> ��
> >
> �干活的农民工青年么。你们见过的��
> ��
> >
> ��非两类。一种是受过高等教育，��
> �教
> >
> 养的中国男孩，一种是拿着父母的钱��
> ��
> >
> �耀的二世祖。所以你们对中国男孩��
> ��
> > ��象呈现两个极端。
>
> you forgot the majority of chinese in foreigner
> eyes who has lived in China for quite long
> time:poor,uneducated,filthy,zealous but rude.

Canuck Wrote:
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> that's not the case in my town, most of people
> think we Chinese push up housing price and because
> Chinese work too hard, they push white people out
> of business, as white people wanna get off at 4pm
> , never work on weekend.
> people think Chinese is rich here.... lol..
>
>
> you know, too bad, white people in my town are too
> lazy and expect stuff hand over to them... i wish
> more immigrants live in my town, then they have to
> work hard...
>
> I am telling ya, if there is way i can hire
> undocumented Mexican contractors, i will not hire
> white people as plumber or yard work... white
> people often come late and get off early, do
> things slow and expect me to pay high price...
>
> haha, i am so racist eh?

You view White people there much the same White people view Chinese here so it all evens out I guess haha

i highly respect Italian family here in Canada, they have high family tradition..

Seriously, I still can not accept the way some of my community members educate their kids, let their kids running in the neighbourhood without underwear or get drunk in public…. That’s so welfare, totally reduce my property values.

Anyway, believe or not. I think I am quite racist to trailer park people or people who live off welfare.

If people like me, FOB, can buy a house here in Canada, others should have no excuse or complain Canada is unfair for them. if people can not survive in Canada, can not survive anywhere in the world.

Canuck Wrote:
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> that's not the case in my town, most of people
> think we Chinese push up housing price and because
> Chinese work too hard, they push white people out
> of business, as white people wanna get off at 4pm
> , never work on weekend.
> people think Chinese is rich here.... lol..
>
>
> you know, too bad, white people in my town are too
> lazy and expect stuff hand over to them... i wish
> more immigrants live in my town, then they have to
> work hard...
>
> I am telling ya, if there is way i can hire
> undocumented Mexican contractors, i will not hire
> white people as plumber or yard work... white
> people often come late and get off early, do
> things slow and expect me to pay high price...
>
> haha, i am so racist eh?
>
>
> Kurt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Xmnevaeh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Kurt Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I am ordinary,but better than most
> > > chinese,that's
> > > > my opinion about myself,haha,chinese are
> > > nothing
> > > > to me,neither their opinion about me.
> > >
> > > Kurt ：
> >
> > >
> >
> 描述一个人，一个词语，一句话，一��
> ��
> > ��
> > >
> >
> �文章都难以做到。你们觉得寥寥的��
> ��
> > ��
> > >
> >
> ��可以让大家了解中国男孩么。你��
> ��
> > �见
> > >
> >
> 过农民工的孩子么，你们见过在工地��
> ��
> > ��
> > >
> >
> �干活的农民工青年么。你们见过的��
> ��
> > ��
> > >
> >
> ��非两类。一种是受过高等教育，��
> ��
> > �教
> > >
> >
> 养的中国男孩，一种是拿着父母的钱��
> ��
> > ��
> > >
> >
> �耀的二世祖。所以你们对中国男孩��
> ��
> > ��
> > > ��象呈现两个极端。
> >
> > you forgot the majority of chinese in foreigner
> > eyes who has lived in China for quite long
> > time:poor,uneducated,filthy,zealous but rude.


you made founder of canada can't pay house price and you proud of it,good,how about that-western rich peopel come to China and buy many houses in China to make chinese can't buy house any more,make chinese sleep out on the streets,that's even to both white canadian and chinese in China.
Hiring mexican?Canada should kick you out of Canada,you should thanks Canada offer you such good living,not pick on Canada,if not because Canada,you are same with millions chinese youth desperate to buy a house for marriage in China.

Kurt Wrote:
> you forgot the majority of chinese in foreigner
> eyes who has lived in China for quite long
> time:poor,uneducated,filthy,zealous but rude.

虽然他们贫穷，无知，肮脏同时也很粗暴，但是他们也一样勤劳的工作，为了父母，孩子和生活庄严地活着。他们当中有的人为了亲情，爱情或者友谊还付出了生命。作为人，没有受过教育但是却能本能的为了珍贵的东西付出自己的生命，他们就不能赢得你的尊敬和理解么？难道非得接受高等教育，在水一方养尊处优，你才觉得他们的地位才和你平齐么？
你看问题的时候可以看到美好的一面的，或许在中国某些东西伤害了你，让你关闭了窗户。就像我们以前的祖国一样曾经的闭关。你选择了逃避和报复。

First of all, not every Chinese man are really cool nor cute in which some may perceived. My ex BF is a Chinese...gosh, our difference in culture and thinking are alittle far apart to keep the relationship from going, am rather a stubborn gal whilst he's an autocratic pig...a hardcore communist thinking and believe only in themselves...i was laughing all my way about their education system (although very rude of me) and personally speaking the Chinese are BRAINWASH...Sorry to all the Chinese out there..Sensitive about what others say about China...very nationistlist..well is good, but too arrogance and sensitive, not humble at all...I am very active in another Chinese forum in Sydney..and gosh i tell you..you'll bump into some of the worst Chinese in Sydney, foul and ill manner with their words...something, i couldn't help but to laugh at them...Oopss..coz some seriously behaving like hooligans...

Especially the discussion is about Taiwan and China relationship...haha...you will see how those Taiwan been bash like mad..I was one of them who cannot agree to what the Chinese is doing and ended up...wow....bomb and bomb like mad...

Kurt Wrote:
> > > you forgot the majority of chinese in
> foreigner
> > > eyes who has lived in China for quite long
> > > time:poor,uneducated,filthy,zealous but rude.
>
> you made founder of canada can't pay house price
> and you proud of it,good,how about that-western
> rich peopel come to China and buy many houses in
> China to make chinese can't buy house any
> more,make chinese sleep out on the streets,that's
> even to both white canadian and chinese in China.
> Hiring mexican?Canada should kick you out of
> Canada,you should thanks Canada offer you such
> good living,not pick on Canada,if not because
> Canada,you are same with millions chinese youth
> desperate to buy a house for marriage in China.

你这话的确说到了点子上面 我就是这千万人中的一个 难道发达国家就可以不用工作而免费的领取到房子？由于外资的进来，挣去了差价 挣到了我们的血汗钱 这个是全球化带来的效果 但是也因为全球化 中国才通过外资建起来了那些房子 才有今天的繁荣 到底是谁输了谁赢了？ 你的思想还是太幼稚了 净看些表面的东西

without doubt chinese are brainwashed they don't realise it.
media is censored so they believe everything they are told, even untruths it a way of controlling the nation. It is only when Chinese students leave to go overseas realise how much they are contolled thus reason only 30% of students ever come back to China (figure was from news reports recently).

Other things you say are cultural, you can take the chinese man out of china but never take china out the man or woman saying that.

They say chinese wall was built to keep out invaders but in fact as built keep chinese people in.

hey, wouldn't Paris be a perfect city without French people?

Dude, that’s how capitalism works. Capital has no emotion, only seeks the deal…. founder of Canada? that should be Native...

If you own a business, you wanna outsource or even hire illegal immigrants, if it means cut down cost…. Just face it….

Why not proud of being immigrant or Chinese, because we are opportunist, we know there is better future here in Canada, because locals are tend to be lazy, that’s why business opportunities belong to hard working entrepreneurs.

Difference between me and ordinary struggle Chinese young adults are, when I was teen, I have already dreamed to live in a freedom world, while nobody tells me I can do this, can not go there. dream to breathe freedom air…

Of course I appreciate Canada offers me these opportunities… hey, survivors the fittest.

Even you ask ordinary Canadian, most of us will agree that we have good social programs, compared with rest of the world, that is why I said if you can not survive here, you can not survive anywhere in the world.




Kurt Wrote:
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> Canuck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > that's not the case in my town, most of people
> > think we Chinese push up housing price and
> because
> > Chinese work too hard, they push white people
> out
> > of business, as white people wanna get off at
> 4pm
> > , never work on weekend.
> > people think Chinese is rich here.... lol..
> >
> >
> > you know, too bad, white people in my town are
> too
> > lazy and expect stuff hand over to them... i
> wish
> > more immigrants live in my town, then they have
> to
> > work hard...
> >
> > I am telling ya, if there is way i can hire
> > undocumented Mexican contractors, i will not
> hire
> > white people as plumber or yard work... white
> > people often come late and get off early, do
> > things slow and expect me to pay high price...
> >
> > haha, i am so racist eh?
> >
> >
> > Kurt Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Xmnevaeh Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Kurt Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > I am ordinary,but better than most
> > > > chinese,that's
> > > > > my opinion about myself,haha,chinese are
> > > > nothing
> > > > > to me,neither their opinion about me.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt ：
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 描述一个人，一个词语，一句话，一��
> ��
> > ��
> > > ��
> > > >
> > >
> >
> �文章都难以做到。你们觉得寥寥的��
> ��
> > ��
> > > ��
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ��可以让大家了解中国男孩么。你��
> ��
> > ��
> > > �见
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 过农民工的孩子么，你们见过在工地��
> ��
> > ��
> > > ��
> > > >
> > >
> >
> �干活的农民工青年么。你们见过的��
> ��
> > ��
> > > ��
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ��非两类。一种是受过高等教育，��
> ��
> > ��
> > > �教
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 养的中国男孩，一种是拿着父母的钱��
> ��
> > ��
> > > ��
> > > >
> > >
> >
> �耀的二世祖。所以你们对中国男孩��
> ��
> > ��
> > > ��
> > > > ��象呈现两个极端。
> > >
> > > you forgot the majority of chinese in
> foreigner
> > > eyes who has lived in China for quite long
> > > time:poor,uneducated,filthy,zealous but rude.
>
>
> you made founder of canada can't pay house price
> and you proud of it,good,how about that-western
> rich peopel come to China and buy many houses in
> China to make chinese can't buy house any
> more,make chinese sleep out on the streets,that's
> even to both white canadian and chinese in China.
> Hiring mexican?Canada should kick you out of
> Canada,you should thanks Canada offer you such
> good living,not pick on Canada,if not because
> Canada,you are same with millions chinese youth
> desperate to buy a house for marriage in China.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/15/2009 02:32AM by Canuck.

Canuck Wrote:
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> hey, wouldn't Paris be a perfect city without
> French people?

China would be perfect if japanese killed all chinese,and let BeiJing full of japanese people,not stinky chinese.

Canuck Wrote:
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> Dude, that’s how capitalism works. Capital has
> no emotion, only seeks the deal…. founder of
> Canada? that should be Native...

Dose native has concept of what was province?what was law?what was regular army?what was prime minister?etc.you must missing jungle dancing and nude body,go and to do it then in reservation.why don't you say monkeys are founder of China?haha,monkeys have longer history than chinese in China,they are founder of China.go join a cannibal tribe.

Xmnevaeh Wrote:
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> Kurt Wrote:
> > > > you forgot the majority of chinese in
> > foreigner
> > > > eyes who has lived in China for quite long
> > > > time:poor,uneducated,filthy,zealous but
> rude.
> >
> > you made founder of canada can't pay house
> price
> > and you proud of it,good,how about that-western
> > rich peopel come to China and buy many houses
> in
> > China to make chinese can't buy house any
> > more,make chinese sleep out on the
> streets,that's
> > even to both white canadian and chinese in
> China.
> > Hiring mexican?Canada should kick you out of
> > Canada,you should thanks Canada offer you such
> > good living,not pick on Canada,if not because
> > Canada,you are same with millions chinese youth
> > desperate to buy a house for marriage in China.
>
> 你这话的确说到了点子上面
> 我就是这千万人中的一个
> 难道发达国家就可以不用工作而免费��
> �领取到房子？由于外资的进来，挣去�
> ��差价 挣到了我们的血汗钱
> 这个是全球化带来的效果
> 但是也因为全球化
> 中国才通过外资建起来了那些房子
> 才有今天的繁荣
> 到底是谁输了谁赢了？
> 你的思想还是太幼稚了
> 净看些表面的东西


In west,in same special cases,sometimes government offering free houses to certain group of people.

Kurt Wrote:
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> Canuck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > hey, wouldn't Paris be a perfect city without
> > French people?
>
> China would be perfect if japanese killed all
> chinese,and let BeiJing full of japanese
> people,not stinky chinese.


WTF? why the F you came to this forum then? if you hate China and Chinese so much...

Detest does not mean hate lol...calm down if everyone here is in a wrath...

Canuck Wrote:
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> Kurt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Canuck Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > hey, wouldn't Paris be a perfect city without
> > > French people?
> >
> > China would be perfect if japanese killed all
> > chinese,and let BeiJing full of japanese
> > people,not stinky chinese.
>
>
> WTF? why the F you came to this forum then? if you
> hate China and Chinese so much...

He claims to be here to help the CHinese to understand how foreigners think of htem. Really he's here because foreigners in China need somewhere to bitch and moan about China in order to release their annoyance over the differences in culture.

I do it to friends as they understand why I bitch.

Kurt Wrote:
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> Dose native has concept of what was province?what
> was law?what was regular army?what was prime
> minister?etc.you must missing jungle dancing and
> nude body,go and to do it then in reservation.why
> don't you say monkeys are founder of
> China?haha,monkeys have longer history than
> chinese in China,they are founder of China.go join
> a cannibal tribe.

This just clearly shows you have no fucking clue about Native history or Canadian History. Don't talk about shit unless you know what you are talking about. Natives had very clear boundaries for their tribes (provinces) they had very clear laws with punishments for breaking them, they had armies, they had leaders and heads of their tribes (Prime Minister). Even the word Canada is a Native word.