Overseas.Born.Chinese Wrote:
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> Uberche,
>
> If there is one thing that I do know regarding the
> Global Power Elite is that they have become more
> arrogant and less secretive in recent years.
>
> For example, the secret of who loaned funds to
> Lenin and Trotsky to start the Russian Revolution
> was kept locked away during the Cold War. It was
> only after the fall of the Soviet Union did
> investigative scholars discovered that loaning of
> funds to Lenin and Trotsky to begin their Russian
> Revolution originated from Jewish New York
> bankers.
>
> Currently, the same Cabal makes no secret of their
> intentions of One-World Government. During the
> recent G-20 summit convened to discuss the plans
> to contain the current Global Financial Crisis,
> the stooges present announced the beginning of
> One-World Government under their not so cleverly
> disguised plan to create a unified financial body
> that would be created to oversee the financial and
> economic policies of every nation.
>
> Moreover, their arrogance has made them
> susceptible to miscalculating a nation's possible
> response to their moves for global domination.
> For example, in the Georgia War of 2008, President
> Saakashvili might have jumped the gun; however,
> assuming the Global Power Elite was all-knowing,
> they could have easily curtailed Georgia's
> invasion of South Ossetia with a phone call and
> not face the humiliation of defeat at the hand of
> the Russians.

The extreme nationalism of the Chinese people is a little more obvious than anything you mentioned... Spend a week in China and you should easily know it.

Uberche,

If Nationalist sentiments are on the rise in China, then all the better.

Remember the Global Power Elite's ultimate goal is One-World Government, which requires the elimination of nation states. Indeed, that Cabal tolerated nationalism in the past to unify various populations, but only to the extent that they could subvert those governments with one of their indoctrinated puppets. Now that most of the nations are under their influence via their stooges, the final phase in regional unification leading to global political union is near, as those puppets will now advocate the need for the globalization of finance, government, and etc.

Having said that, any nationalist sentiments at this time in any of their client states is not what they want right now. If anything, such movements will only slow down their progress. Hence, if this line of logic is correct, it behooves all nations to become ever more nationalistic and begin political movements to remove from power the Global Power Elite's puppets in their own respective countries.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/31/2009 08:39PM by Overseas.Born.Chinese.

Those in power only need the governments to not be Nationalistic. Like in North America, they are advocating a common Currency and ruling body but I've heard people on the news saying "But don't worry, You'll still be different countries!" They don't care if the people are nationalistic as long as the governments agree to give up their individual power.

Uberche,

Exactly.

Currently, as you already pointed out in many of your previous posts, the groups that are fiercely nationalistic in most nations are the much poorer and lower educated classes that will essentially listen blindly to what the government tells them. In contrast, the working and middle classes, that are not as nationalistic and are so busy working to survive, have no time to know what is really going on and as you would expect, also follow their government's decisions in good faith.

In any case, since most do not know that there is a Global Power Elite, too busy to care, or dismiss this as fantasy; they are all falling into a One-World Government trap. Consequently, it relies upon those of us who do understand what is going on and do three simple things as advocated by American historian Michael Parenti: educate, agitate, and organize.

We need to educate everyone that what is going on is no conspiracy, but, as Argentine Economist Adrian Salbuchi says, common sense. Common sense that if we were in the Cabal's shoes, would we do anything else less different than trying to establish World domination?

We need to agitate in the sense through are discussions with others, we raise questions that forces people to think about what is going on in the governmental decions in their own country and make judgments of the situation for themselves.

The last thing is to organize what needs to be done to reverse the decisions taken by governments that further the Cabal's agenda. However, since every nation and the degree of their government's connection to the Global Power Elite vary country to country, it is up to the nationalists/patriots of each country to determine exactly what must be done.

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I just discovered this thread and only read the last post. I'm responding to ... take you to task! Sorry

Your post here actually mirrors what you wrote to me in another thread a few days ago, i.e. two and half months after this one.

It's true that most if not all of your posts have been about the GPE but if your goal was to "educate, agitate and organize" you haven't done an effective job. I'll give a few illustrations of what i mean:

a) Albeit polite, the tone of many of your posts has been condescending, à la "Good grief, if you're too ignorant to know which players make up the GPE, then i'm not going to waste time to educate you." As a result, you lost credibility and most of your audience. It's only a few days ago that you gave me the general membership of the GPE but by then i already knew it (and you never bothered to address my claim that the "handful with the decision-making power" really isn't all that omnipotent).

b) You laid out most of your arguments as an upcoming battle between the US and China as if this was cast in stone and your hope always was that China would come out victorious. Whenever i visit a site where strong claims are made about what the GPE has in store, i immediately dismiss them as conspiracy theories. Neither you, nor any other outsider, ever is a "fly on the wall" at any of the GPE's secret meetings. You might earn credibility if you express your concerns as possible outcomes of or grave suspicions with the direction the GPE wants to take the world.

I am concerned about the inordinate power of the GPE but, unlike you, i don't see a war as the inevitable outcome. Not yet, at least. Imho, all of us (all 7 billion minus 6,000) will be fleeced. I therefore want to see a movement that will unite like-minded people wherever they are in the world and whatever their local concerns might be, and fight this dragon. I also think now is a good window to embark on this fight. I'll give you a small example: we in the US should apply tremendous pressure on the Obama Admin and Congress to do away with the special tax rate for the hedge funds and on many welfare-for-the-wealthy gifts handed out by our politicians to their campaign donors. I've made a similar comment not long ago but you belittled me for it.

Now, this post was not meant at all to put you on the spot as i sincerely hope that you carry out your mission of educating, agitating and, above all, organizing. You probably have realized long ago that most threads here are rather nebulous. Have you ever considered starting a blog? I wish you would.

Thanks for mentioning Michael Parenti. I read his article on Mother Teresa which, of course, was music to my ears. I would have liked it even better if i had not read the exact same criticism years ago (maybe even before 9/11???) in an article by Christopher Hitchens in Vanity Fair. I also read the article about the "peaceful buddhists". This was not too much of a surprise but still rather disappointing because before i became an atheist i dabbled in Zen for a few years. Anyway, i bookmarked his site and will read more.

Sooner or later you'll probably run across this post

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Tangerine,

You post,
"Albeit polite, the tone of many of your posts has been condescending, à la "Good grief, if you're too ignorant to know which players make up the GPE, then i'm not going to waste time to educate you." As a result, you lost credibility and most of your audience. It's only a few days ago that you gave me the general membership of the GPE but by then i already knew it (and you never bothered to address my claim that the "handful with the decision-making power" really isn't all that omnipotent). "

As I said in a previous thread, I purposely do not define the GPE or post highly detailed facts about them because I want those interested in the GPE to take a look to what I wrote and search for the answers themselves.

Although there are only a handful of people in the highest echelons of the decision makers in the GPE, they wield tremendous financial power in most nations on Earth. That alone gives them omnipotence over all the lives of those who live in the countries they indirectly rule.

You suggest,
"we in the US should apply tremendous pressure on the Obama Admin and Congress to do away with the special tax rate for the hedge funds and on many welfare-for-the-wealthy gifts handed out by our politicians to their campaign donors. I've made a similar comment not long ago but you belittled me for it. "

You should know by now that the three branches of the US Government are already controlled by the GPE. Hence, your suggestion, though logically sound, is futile as Obama's fake attempts at healthcare reform, if he even knows what that would really look like. Furthermore, did you say special taxes for the rich? Don't forget that the US is a capitalist country; hence, that will never be a reality.


OBC

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/18/2009 11:45PM by Overseas.Born.Chinese.

OBC,

The US ceased to be a capitalist country once we decided that the profits go to the wealthy whereas the losses trickle down to the taxpayers. We've finally come to the end of close to 30 years of Reaganomics (Clinton essentially was one himself). Are you in tune with the mood of the country? We're not revolutionaries yet but we've definitely seen the light. Maybe it would be more accurate to say that we have seen the tunnel but not much light at the end of it.

We will get health-care reform this year and it WILL include the essential public option. The media parrots are trying to throw sand in people's eyes and distract them with empty sound bytes. Notice how the GOP is largely hiding behind a few demagogues (Limbaugh and Palin) and their shrill shouting aims to cover up that their message is devoid of substance? I'll say it again, i'm not a Democrat either but the right is the biggest reactionary force.

We're getting out of the recession but it will be another year before the jobs come back and probably not all of them. That gives us another year to work toward change--not a complete overhaul but change in the right direction.

Allow me to ask you a sincere question, OBC. Have any of the numerous responses you have received at this site over time induced you to modify your thinking even by as little as a millimeter?

Tangerine,

You say,
"We're getting out of the recession but it will be another year before the jobs come back and probably not all of them."

With all due respect, there is no real evidence to show the US or any other country is coming out of the current global depression. As many know already, the benchmarks most governments and their propagandists like to present as proof of recovery are suspect and outright wrong due to the dubious calculations employed to come to their so-called numbers.

Ultimately, only the countries that are production-based economies have any chance of recovery. Countries based on finance capitalism, like the US, will not recover unless the International Bankers decide to replace their US-Dollar proxy with another currency. (Hint: the Amero)

You ask,
"Have any of the numerous responses you have received at this site over time induced you to modify your thinking even by as little as a millimeter?"

To be honest, there has been no responses to my posts in this forum that has substantially modified my understanding of the GPE.

At Least, not yet.


OBC

Overseas.Born.Chinese Wrote:
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>
> With all due respect, there is no real evidence to
> show the US or any other country is coming out of
> the current global depression. As many know
> already, the benchmarks most governments and their
> propagandists like to present as proof of recovery
> are suspect and outright wrong due to the dubious
> calculations employed to come to their so-called
> numbers.
>
> Ultimately, only the countries that are
> production-based economies have any chance of
> recovery. Countries based on finance capitalism,
> like the US, will not recover unless the
> International Bankers decide to replace their
> US-Dollar proxy with another currency. (Hint: the
> Amero)
>
>
>
> OBC

I quite agree with the point here. People are over optimistic at present anticipating the coming of next year as they believe the outcome of the crisis will blow away. unfortunately there is far more to be done before the economy getting back on tract, especially the US. government is pushing too much on the recovery instead of the market to be healed itself.