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Re: Shanghai girl's new fashion (photos)

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Re: Man leaps into river to escape wife's nagging..yes she is Chinese

Jasuk — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:56:42 +0100

In china you do not need to develop weapons of mass destruction you have the "Chinese woman" who does the same job (:D Could you not have sold some to Iraq to Saddam Hussien??? :S

Re: Man leaps into river to escape wife's nagging..yes she is Chinese

Uberche — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:05:43 +0100

A friend of my ex-girlfriend jumped out a window because his wife wouldn't stop criticizing him for not having enough money and a car. He survived and while in the hospital bed she bitched at him some more about who was going to take care of her while he was in the hospital.... Crazy women...

Re: Man leaps into river to escape wife's nagging..yes she is Chinese

Jasuk — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:21:44 +0100

I wonder how long her promise of not nagging lasted...not long i guess (:D

Re: Man leaps into river to escape wife's nagging..yes she is Chinese

Brian99 — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:18:52 +0100

Having dated a Chinese woman for two years, I can understand completely, poor bastard.

Re: Man leaps into river to escape wife's nagging..yes she is Chinese

Kurt — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:10:11 +0100

typical chinese woman,commonly.not surprisingly.>:D

Man leaps into river to escape wife's nagging... yes she is Chinese!

Jasuk — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:44:04 +0100

[url=http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,26007136-5005370,00.html]Husband risks life to escape nagging wife[/url] [size=x-small](August 31, 2009)[/size] [quote]A MAN jumped into a fast-flowing river because he couldn't take his wife's nagging anymore. The Chinese truck driver, known as Zhou, and his wife were on a ferry on the Yangtze River when it all became too much for him, the Chongqing Evening Post reports...[/quote]

Re: China looks to export censorship (BBC)

Canuck — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:14:30 +0100

This is probably one of the leading factors why I leave China in my teen. As I am a radical person, I don’t like to follow what mainstream medias told us. I love questioning. Hey, I live in a place where Hong Kong TV station is available, I grow up watching GI Joe, “fight for freedom”.haha… so yes I was polluted by American pop culture when I was really really young, let’s say 6 years old. I mean, come on, every medias in the western countries have obligation to give critics to government. Being a president or Prime Minister, or government themselves, have to have ability to listen a different view. 良药苦口，利于病,　忠言逆耳，利于行。 Chinese should all understand this quote eh? Then again, it does not mean it’s totally freedom here in west too, you have to be careful what you put on facebook, otherwise your employer or business might sue your ass off. Black hawk landed on my backyard shit like that….haha

Re: China looks to export censorship

Uberche — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:04:47 +0100

Melbguy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Also who Rebiya Kadeer is and what she has talked > about in Melbourne are like talking a big story. I > know it is not true because I am a minority such > as religion prosecution etc. My parents are > muslims. They go to mosque without any > harrassments. And same to everyone i know. > > SO think in this way, imagine you were a Han > chinese, and you know your neighbour guy can get > 1000 dollars each month from the government or > whatever benefit which he can get but you can't > becasue he is a minority. and suddently he went > overseas and told others you did this did that to > him which you never have committed. What will be > your reaction? So it's your opinion that if it didn't happen to you it didn't happen to anyone? There have been many reports of problems like this. Or we can play your "what if..." game. What if someone who was your minority in your home town raped a Han girl (not you, you had nothing to do with it) and after the Police said there wasn't enoguh evidence to convict them so the other Han in your city beat you to death... Imagine what your friend's reaction would be... Maybe protests? violence? riots? Just a thought...

Re: China looks to export censorship

Kurt — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:46:14 +0100

Melbguy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > hi Kurt, > > Do you know under minority chinese have a lot of > priorities than the Han Chinese? ( I am a minority > chinese in Australia.... :)) > > Under Mao's era, everyone was the same. ( if you > and I are working the same job, we will get the > same payment and same condition. ) But currently > the huge difference started seperate people apart. > Not just between same people but also between the > majority chinese and the minority people. > > In Xijiang, the minority has a lot of special > assistance from the government which the Han > people can't get. Also for a lot of good jobs, the > minority people can't get because the Han people > moved from inland has better education and skills. > It definately will create conflicts. > > Also who Rebiya Kadeer is and what she has talked > about in Melbourne are like talking a big story. I > know it is not true because I am a minority such > as religion prosecution etc. My parents are > muslims. They go to mosque without any > harrassments. And same to everyone i know. > > SO think in this way, imagine you were a Han > chinese, and you know your neighbour guy can get > 1000 dollars each month from the government or > whatever benefit which he can get but you can't > becasue he is a minority. and suddently he went > overseas and told others you did this did that to > him which you never have committed. What will be > your reaction? > > :) cheers. I don't care how many benefits chinese government given to minority,I known something about it,what I care is freedom of speech.I don't care if Rebiya or Dalailama are a liars or not,that's not the point,the point is,if you don't give your enemy or dissident the right to express their different views,no matter how hard you beat drum for democracy of china yourself,all kinds of democracy you are talking about for me is just bullshit.that's the essential of democracy.

Re: China looks to export censorship

Melbguy — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:18:29 +0100

hi Kurt, Do you know under minority chinese have a lot of priorities than the Han Chinese? ( I am a minority chinese in Australia.... :)) Under Mao's era, everyone was the same. ( if you and I are working the same job, we will get the same payment and same condition. ) But currently the huge difference started seperate people apart. Not just between same people but also between the majority chinese and the minority people. In Xijiang, the minority has a lot of special assistance from the government which the Han people can't get. Also for a lot of good jobs, the minority people can't get because the Han people moved from inland has better education and skills. It definately will create conflicts. Also who Rebiya Kadeer is and what she has talked about in Melbourne are like talking a big story. I know it is not true because I am a minority such as religion prosecution etc. My parents are muslims. They go to mosque without any harrassments. And same to everyone i know. SO think in this way, imagine you were a Han chinese, and you know your neighbour guy can get 1000 dollars each month from the government or whatever benefit which he can get but you can't becasue he is a minority. and suddently he went overseas and told others you did this did that to him which you never have committed. What will be your reaction? :) cheers.

Re: China looks to export censorship

Kurt — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:18:09 +0100

China has it's old feudal civilization,but when it comes to modern civilization,China is a juvenile.China should get a better understanding of world mainstream standard of behavior.

Re: China looks to export censorship

Uberche — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:53:23 +0100

Stop making China the center of such events. Everyone knows if you do something to honour China like the Berlin book festival tried to do they will become pushy, insulting and controlling so stop making things to honour them. If China wants to be that way, let them go back to being a closed border country incapable of feeding it's people. China needs to learn proper manners in dealing with other countries but it's still a very young country, it will learn as it gets strong. Or it'll cause a war. Either way things will get solved...

Re: China looks to export censorship

Brian99 — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:48:16 +0100

This is not surprising. The Chinese are not able to separate Business from pleasure, nor are they able to separate business with foreign countries with that countries laws and ideals. They honestly believe that, since someone trades and is friends with them, that they should have a say over what people do in their own country, ridicules of course but tell the Chinese that. Arrogant, of course, out of line, of course, law breaking, of course, but can you prove it, and even could you, the people who did the hacking and sent the threats are in China, so what can you do?

China looks to export censorship (BBC)

Kurt — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:14:00 +0100

[url=http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8329217.stm]China looks to export censorship[/url] By Michael Bristow - BBC News, Beijing - 2 November 2009 [quote]A few days before the start of this year's Melbourne International Film Festival its executive director received an "audacious" telephone call. An official from China's consulate in the city called him to "urge" the festival to withdraw a film about the Chinese activist Rebiya Kadeer. Beijing then tried to persuade the organisers of the Frankfurt Book Fair not to allow two Chinese writers to attend an event. China says it does not interfere in the internal affairs of other countries. But some see these acts as an attempt by China to use abroad the tough censorship measures it constantly employs at home.[/quote]

Re: Many 'missing' after China riots

Brian99 — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:05:37 +0100

Thanks for your support Kurt :)

Re: Many 'missing' after China riots

Kurt — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:02:05 +0100

you have the point,Brian99.:)-D:)

Re: Jackie Chan « We Chinese need to be controlled »

Kurt — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:00:21 +0100

spoken well,Brian99,especially"it would also require a level of free out of the box thinking that the Chinese, with their hive mentality, have yet to achieve.":)-Dyou are the best.

Re: Jackie Chan « We Chinese need to be controlled »

Brian99 — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:41:54 +0100

Sadly best and brightest in China doesn't mean much anywhere else, so not hard to keep the "best" and brightest of China in China. The problem in this regard is China's poor education system, one which is not free, even though the government is quite well off financially speaking. Many farmers still can't afford to send their children to public schools. The best and brightest often are not even getting an education. Than there is the poor state of Chinese education in general. Corruption often makes it possible for students to buy their grades, via cheating, or bribes, and low teacher wages create teachers who don't care if students do cheat. Add to that a skin flint government which doesn't invest nearly enough in education, and you end up with a lot of under educated people with college degrees. Quality education is clearly not a priority in China at the moment. This puzzles me, seeing as the Chinese Government spent 40 billion "American" dollars on the Olympics, more than any other country in history. Had they funneled this money into education, think of what they could have done. Now look at Western countries, who are the real innovators of the world. They may be in debt, but only because they subcontract most of their work to under developed countries, and built too many nukes during the arms race, their financial shortfalls are not because of investing in education. America, Britain, these are the countries that make and invent more or less everything the rest of the world takes for granted. If only the Chinese followed the example set by the west and invested as much in education, maybe they could become innovators as well. This would require more than just good education though, it would also require a level of free and outside the box thinking that the Chinese, with their current hive mentality, have yet to achieve. It's sad to see a country so flush with cash misusing it. Education should be their number one priority, instead it is quite low on the list. Until it's made a priority, China's "best and brightest" won't stack up to the best and brightest produced by the education systems in Western countries, nor will China ever become a world leader until this happens. As long as the main priority in China is things like passing off 14 year old gymnasts as 16 year old's, and making a quick buck, China's best and brightest won't mean a hill of beans in the world arena, that's for certain.

Re: China's Tough Approach is Enviable

Brian99 — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:12:03 +0100

Umm, clearly the death penalty for corrupt officials in China doesn't work, as China is the most corrupt country in the world. People go into police work here because they expect the bribes and other creature comforts. If it doesn't work, don't do it. People always think they are more clever than the system, and they don't think about being punished or getting caught, if they did they would never commit these crimes. In truth these crimes are only punished when made public, or some government venture fails because of a corrupt official, otherwise it's business as usual. People who think enacting these tough policies in America would work are fooling themselves, as the death penalty has proven to be zero deterrent to Murder, why would it work in regards to stealing? It's a form of punishment, not a deterrent, this much is obvious. It sends a message, that people don't listen to. No one ever thinks it will happen to them, profit and gain are what concern the person benefiting, not punishment, as they think it won't ever happen to them. No, the death penalty doesn't work, if it did there would be no corruption, or a hell of a lot less, in China, and yet it's the most corrupt government in the world. If one goes by simple result driven logic, it has little if any effect. Maybe it would be worse if there were no death penalty, however America has no death penalty, and there is a hell of a lot less corruption there, so clearly it doesn't work to deter people. AIG, the economic collapse, this was not people breaking laws, but being stupid, which is not punishable by death, or in any way. This corrupt Chinese official stole outright and accepted millions in bribes, totally different story. Compare different countries and their laws, as well as their crime rates, and level of governmental corruption, and you'll see what works and doesn't, death penalty, doesn't do a damn thing but make victims feel better, it's no cure for the problem though, that's for sure.

Re: Jackie Chan « We Chinese need to be controlled »

Overseas.Born.Chinese — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:57:59 +0100

Brian99, I agree with your last post. China will not make any strides in political freedom, unless it reaches a certain level of development. This level of development would entail a substantial proportion of China's population earning middle class wages and sharing at least a high school education. Having said that, China still has a long way to go, despite those who believe China should sacrifice attending to its own domestic problems, in order help the current Global Financial Crisis. Furthermore, it behooves China to ensure that its best and its brightest people stay within their country to ensure its economic development. OBC

Re: Many 'missing' after China riots

Brian99 — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:47:29 +0100

Thanks, and I agree. The Chinese never say anything bad about China, mainly because they are not allowed, so if someone else does you are "bashing" their country, and should be beaten, interesting view point. It's just a case of mass brain washing to a certain extent.

Re: Obama Wins the Nobel Peace Prize

Brian99 — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:45:22 +0100

Indeed, Bush was a moron, who got elected because of his namesake, and a wish to return to Regan era economics and policies. Politics in America has become nothing more than a family business, with other bushes wanting to run for office. They are not the only families who's names are so interlaced with politics though that their names alone get them elected. Politics in America is a joke if you ask me. Obama got elected because people were so fed up with Bush they wanted the most radical change possible, thinking things would have to get a great deal better. Mediocre won't get that done. Can't really blame them though, I mean look at the alternative, Maccain was so out of control and unable to control his emotions it's funny. Even would he have made a good President, he was a lousy orator, which is all people care about these days. Also, fear of Sarah Palin possibly becoming the Pres ruined any chance he had. Whoever made the choice to have her be Vice Pres should be put in the Guiness Book of world records for dumbest idea ever. No one cares who the visa president will be, as long as it's a he, and he is old and wrinkly. Also, lets be real, Obama is half black, had he had lips the size of a tuba, skin black as pitch, and had the accent of a black guy from Philly, He'd have never been elected president. I disagree with the Chinese poster about the Dalai Lama, mans done a lot of good work, and the Chinese people have in large part been brain washed about the whole Tibet affair, big surprise there. However, giving it to Obama, what the hell has he done to win a Nobel prize, he's no mother Terasa that's for sure.

Re: Jackie Chan « We Chinese need to be controlled »

Uberche — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:25:55 +0100

China is not even a little bit communist. It's somewhat Socialist but even that isn't really correct anymore... Not sure what you'd call it.

Re: Obama Wins the Nobel Peace Prize

Uberche — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:24:06 +0100

I'd say the reason no body will say he's not all that special is compared to Bush he's amazing... but pretty much everyone is so it's a little silly...

Re: Many 'missing' after China riots

Jasuk — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:36:47 +0100

Brian99 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This poster simply posted a fact, if you don't > like the fact, perhaps it is you who should not be > here, but somewhere where there is a lots of sand > so you can stick your head in it. > > I think it's sad that disappearing people still > happens in China, and is so public. Yes every > country does this to one extreme or another, > however only China is so blatant and unapologetic > about their harsh methods. > > Has nothing to do with liking or hating China, > just pointing out facts, and expressing an opinion > or two. Well said Brain99 >:D< this forum is an open discussion for person to air their views good or bad, no one is right or wrong. Some individuals think we are "china bashing" which is far from the truth, considering we live in China. Some individuals need open their minds before their mouths. ::o

Re: Jackie Chan « We Chinese need to be controlled »

Brian99 — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:23:19 +0100

Truth is China won't become a democracy anytime soon. why? Money, they have more money than God right now, and will for some time. People look at the Soviet Union, thinking that, because it happened there, it will happen in China as well. That's just not the case, as the Soviet Union effectively went bankrupt and collapsed, no such risk in China at this time. China will remain a communist state because of money. They have a lot of it, and the guys who are in charge of that doe also are in charge of the country. As long as they have enough of a cash surplus to grease palms and effectively run the country, there will be no civil unrest, and no collapse. Some day, when most people are middle or upper class, and 3/4 of the people are not farmers worrying about where their next meal will come form, then they will start to care about politics and freedom, that is not the case at the moment, maybe in 50 years, but not anytime soon, that's for sure.

Re: Jackie Chan « We Chinese need to be controlled »

Brian99 — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:22:04 +0100

Truth is China won't become a democracy anytime soon. why? Money, they have more money than God right now, and will for some time. People look at the Soviet Union, thinking that, because it happened there, it will happen in China as well. That's just not the case, as the Soviet Union effectively went backrupt and collapsed, no such risk in China at this time. China will remain a communist state because of money. They have a lot, and the guys who are in charge of that doe also are in charge of the country. As long as they have enough of a cash surplus to grease palms and effectively run the country, there will be no civil unrest, and no collapse. Some day, when most people are middle or upper class, and 3/4 of the people are not farmers worrying about where their next meal will come form, then they will start to care about politics and freedom, that is not the case at the moment, maybe in 50 years, but not anytime soon, that's for sure.

Re: Many 'missing' after China riots

Brian99 — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:15:00 +0100

This poster simply posted a fact, if you don't like the fact, perhaps it is you who should not be here, but somewhere where there is a lots of sand so you can stick your head in it. I think it's sad that disappearing people still happens in China, and is so public. Yes every country does this to one extreme or another, however only China is so blatant and unapologetic about their harsh methods. Has nothing to do with liking or hating China, just pointing out facts, and expressing an opinion or two.

Re: Obama Wins the Nobel Peace Prize

Brian99 — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:09:41 +0100

I have to agree, what exactly has the guy done, except become president and be black? The Nobel peace prize seems more a popularity prize, it seems to be more fluff than actual substance. The guy has done nothing to promote any real lasting peace anywhere. The whole speel about why he got it, just made up BS, even sounds fabricated and flimsy. This guy is mediocre at best as president, and the only reason people won't say so is because they voted for the guy, and don't want to be made to seem like fools because they have been yammering about how he will change things. Peoples pride is more important to them than admitting they were wrong. Of course because they can't do this they will further reinforce their warped reasoning and decision making, by electing this guy again for a second term, just like they did George Bush. Nobel peace prize my ass, this guy is overwhelmed and under whelming as President, he deserves the booby prize instead.